Bismarck

What Dominique Pagani says

Dominique Pagani mentions Bismarck mainly as the architect of German unity achieved around Prussia1. He often returns to this late unification and links it to musical and cultural questions, for instance Wagner's tense relations with his Germany2, the Grail quest3 or the question of "too late"4. In connection with Michel Clouscard, he presents him as the author of the first social laws of a capitalist state5; he also cites his social security system when discussing Nietzsche. In the same session, he uses the Kulturkampf waged against Catholics to explain Nietzsche's charge that Wagner took the "road to Rome"6. He mentions the recently formed Prussian state crushing the French armies7, the phrase "Our future lies on the water", which marks Germany's turn toward the fleet, and a comparison with Cavour. Finally, he attributes to him the remark that to get rid of Russia, one must hold it through Ukraine8.

1. 1#7 • Les Attelé(e)s de la confinitude5 May 2020 · 15:10
2. 2Musicosophie 10. Les deux Klemperer et Bruno Walter dans Wagner18 Jan 2021 · 7:33
3. 3La quête du Graal, bondieuserie ou sacrilège ?1 Apr 2024 · 1:13:48
4. 4TROP TARD ?14 Aug 2024 · 2:15:07
5. 5Tout est permis mais rien n'est possible - Michel Clouscard - 229 Jan 2012 · 28:11
6. 6Musicosophie 12. Nietzsche (tout) contre Wagner28 Jan 2021 · 1:46:16
7. 710#6 Guerre et Paix : "Les pulsions de mort progressent en silence..." (Freud)8 Dec 2021 · 44:24
8. 8"La parole est la meilleure et la pire des choses" (Esope)19 Oct 2022 · 43:41

Summary produced automatically from 13 of the passages below, to be reviewed; the numbers link to the moment in the session.