What Dominique Pagani says Dominique Pagani consistently calls him "the most Nazi of the great philosophers". In his view he is not an ordinary Nazi but a real philosopher who knows what he is doing1 2 . He quotes his 1933 statements about the Führer, the "duty of Eros" toward him, the Panzerdivisionen raised to the rank of a metaphysical act and the "Asiatic" enemy, as well as the Black Notebooks3 4 . What he holds against him most is the trial of technology, pursued after the war and taken up by ecologism: it amounts to condemning the knife rather than the murderer5 6 . He also denounces the "most villainous appropriation" of Hölderlin, whose brown women in Andenken become German women7 . He places him within the irrationalism of the philosophy of being: the anti-Plato, linked to Lukács, in whose shadow the French school from Sartre to Derrida grew up. He does, however, grant him one accurate idea: veiling and unveiling happen at the same time. On the question of technology, he prefers Marx to him.
1 Hegel Plage 2/5 1 Feb 2016 · 1:06:02 2 Le retour du fascisme 4 Feb 2026 · 13:24 3 Heidegger ou la Panzer Philosophie • Q&A Philosophique • Dominique Pagani 21 May 2021 · 7:09 4 Arendt et Heidegger : la destruction de la pensée 24 Sept 2020 · 25:24 5 Monde d'avant, Monde d'après - 2e partie 16 Jan 2021 · 31:50 6 Musicosophie 9. Ironie romantique et sonate de Vinteuil 15 Jan 2021 · 1:36:36 7 #3.4 D'Ulysse à Dédale 1 Aug 2017 · 40:24 Summary produced automatically from 150 of the passages below, to be reviewed; the numbers link to the moment in the session.
Who is this? Martin Heidegger (26 September 1889 – 26 May 1976) was a German philosopher whose work was central to the development of phenomenology, hermeneutics, and existentialism. He has had significant impact within subsequent philosophy, social sciences and humanities, and theology. Heidegger's magnum opus, Being and Time (1927), is widely considered one of the most significant works of modern philosophy. […]
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Series · 21 May 2021 Heidegger, or Panzer Philosophy • Philosophical Q&A • Dominique Pagani0:24 It is not only that he was a Nazi: he is the most Nazi of the great philosophers, an object of cult worship in the French school. 7:09 In 1961 he removed the conclusion of the 1940 lecture course, where the motorization of the Wehrmacht is a metaphysical act. 12:13 He still criticizes technology but sublimates the Panzerdivisionen into a metaphysical act. 17:58 His relation to metaphysics is ambivalent; he sees in Descartes a degeneration and, since Plato, the abandonment of the concern for being. 24:06 What is unforgivable is the post-war period: no guilt at all, anti-communism maintained, philosopher darling of NATO. Season 7 · 5 May 2020 #7 • Harnessed to confinitude32:50 He is the most Nazi of the great philosophers: he resigns the rectorship of Freiburg in 1934 because he is too extremist. 50:26 He designates the enemy as the Asiatic, that is, the Judeo-Bolshevik, and speaks of "Judaization in the broad sense". 58:19 He turns Heraclitus into a power of the Germanic Dasein; his notions designate sordid political realities. 1:05:33 He wanted to be Hitler's philosophical adviser; for him, the salvation of Europe depends on the struggle against the Asiatic. 1:45:51 Blut und Boden lies hidden behind being and Grund; his texts themselves must be read. Talks · 24 Sept 2020 Arendt and Heidegger: the destruction of thought2:41 His Destruction aims, at Davos facing Cassirer, to destroy spirit, logos, reason. 25:24 Black Notebooks Quasi-genocidal antisemitism; as early as 1934 the end of philosophy must give way to the metapolitics of the historical people.28:02 What Is Called Thinking? Thought is here defined as remembrance tied to the fate of the German army: a military-political definition.39:36 Being and Time Replaces philosophical categories with existentials, the first of which is affective attunement.1:01:17 Letter on Humanism Replaces Marxian alienation with the absence of ground and homeland.Series · 5 Mar 2022 Panzer-philosophy against the cogito: neo-fascism or the ideology of nature. Heidegger/Descartes3:35 In a 1951 text, he traces the atomic bomb back to the Cartesian cogito and indicts technology as an attack on being. 5:23 He reportedly said in a seminar that the creation of the Panzerdivisionen was the greatest event of Western metaphysics. 7:26 His text on Van Gogh's shoes belongs to a "Pétainism of the earth." 25:05 Man comes to spoil being: he is at the origin of the "accursed triangle" of dominant thought. 41:49 For him, the Galileo-Cartesian rupture murdered being to turn it into the physicists' nature. Series · 31 Mar 2021 "Red-browns", "decolonial": Should we use the dominant language? • Philosophical Q&A • Pagani1:13:57 He spoke of a duty of Eros toward the Führer. His anti-technicist and anti-humanist thought is what is most disturbing in dominant ideology. 1:30:07 Black Notebooks His notebooks from the 1930s are terrifying. He never wavered in his denunciation of technology leading to the abyss.Talks · 23 May 2026 NEO-FASCISM AND THE IDEOLOGY OF DESIRE: Is Michel CLOUSCARD still relevant? - with Dominique PAGANI1:10:32 A Nazi according to the 1933 notebooks; a true philosopher, he persists after the war in the process of technology. Season 14 · 4 Feb 2026 The return of fascism13:24 He is the most Nazi of the great philosophers; he knows the texts and knows what he is doing when he sows confusion. Talks · 27 Mar 2023 Interview with Dominique Pagani, praxis and psyche54:00 The most Nazi of the great philosophers; his critique of technology after the war foreshadows ecologism. Season 11 · 19 Oct 2022 "Speech is the best and the worst of things" (Aesop)42:56 He quotes his statements on the Führer, the Panzerdivisionen, and the Asiatic enemy; he is the idol of the French philosophical school of Chapoutot's generation. Talks · 19 Mar 2022 Dominique Pagani - Hölderlin, poetry and politics3:00 His Hölderlin is that of the German land, which the Nazis recommended to soldiers. 1:00:04 The Heideggerians want to decouple Hölderlin from Hegel. 1:28:05 Their appropriation of Hölderlin; he makes the Panzerdivision an invention of Western metaphysics. Season 9.2 · 17 Mar 2021 9 #17 The geopolitical metaphor • Planck • Descartes • Clouscard • Dominique Pagani34:54 French Heideggerians give themselves a sham depth with German. 1:36:50 Asked about a filiation between his irrationality and decolonial thinkers, he says a mediation is missing. Series · 7 Feb 2021 Musicosophy 14. Mozart once more51:11 His followers reject 25 centuries of philosophy as the decline of being and save only the pre-Socratics. Series · 28 Jan 2021 Musicosophy 12. Nietzsche (right up) against Wagner1:12:32 He transmitted the worst of Nietzsche and tainted Hölderlin. 1:16:27 He is hopeless at music; a photograph shows him playing pétanque at Le Thor. Series · 18 Jan 2021 Musicosophy 10. The two Klemperers and Bruno Walter in Wagner10:57 Germany produces Heidegger as it does Marx. 1:04:11 Criticized by Adorno and Emmanuel Faye for his jargon (völkisch). 1:07:02 Off the Beaten Track The translation of Holzwege obscures where these paths lead; he resumes after the war his indictment of technology and saw the enemy in "the Asiatic."Talks · 16 Jan 2021 The World Before, The World After - Part 231:50 He never stops putting technique on trial; that is what Pagani forgives him least, more than his reactionary ideas of the 1930s Season 9.2 · 7 Jan 2021 9 #11 How can sciences of history be real?52:45 The most Nazi of philosophers, who knows philosophy well and acts in full knowledge, giving green lights to the intelligentsia. Season 9.1 · 10 Dec 2020 #8 Benefits and harms of amnesia...39:17 The most Nazi of the great philosophers; he persists after the war in his indictment of technology and modern greyness. Series · 3 Dec 2020 Musicosophy 1. Schubert and the master singers22:39 Off the Beaten Track The Holzwege, an image opposed to the Schubertian clearing.42:38 Postwar French philosophy stands in his shadow; its rereading of him prepares the most reactionary vision of Nietzsche. Talks · 6 Oct 2020 Calves and Things (3): The dictatorship of the bobotariat13:38 Periodic mode of the destruction of reason and thought. 25:23 Recognized behind Ellul's thesis on the domination of technology. 32:07 His critique of technè, with Nazism reintegrated into philosophy, is taken up by ecologists and zadistes. 37:35 Claims that true philosophy must be incomprehensible, hence the esotericism of his followers. Season 8 · 21 Jun 2020 #11 • Return to the logics of the subject1:39:30 He turns Hölderlin into a "Nazi machine" singing German soil, the opposite of the poet favorable to the Revolution. Season 7 · 26 Apr 2020 #6 • Harnessed to confinitude1:41:24 His historicity breaks with the lost paradise; he takes reality so seriously as to expect everything from National Socialism. Season 6 · 3 Dec 2019 #6.2 • The Logic of the Subject in the face of the reconstitution of Nazism20:42 Highly educated, he speaks of a duty of Eros toward the Führer; such thinkers lend Nazism a cover of respectability. 1:27:08 His duty of Eros toward the Führer would refer back to the dominant male of Totem and Taboo. Series · 10 Sept 2019 D. Pagani / M. Clouscard's reply to C. Morilhat • Part Two26:54 Off the Beaten Track His paths lead to the horror revealed by the Black Notebooks; his forgetting of being since Plato served the thesis that the gulag was already present in Marx and Hegel.Season 5.2 · 26 Mar 2019 #5.5 Nature or Landscape?56:05 Pagani quotes Wesen without wishing to imitate it. 1:00:31 Hölderlin's "German" is not racial, whatever Heidegger may say. 1:29:31 He aptly shows that veiling and unveiling happen at the same time. Talks · 2 Jul 2018 Tribute to Domenico Losurdo1:45:18 The "being" so dear to Heidegger joins the restoration of lost substantiality. 1:58:35 His critique of technology conducts the trial of means, where fascism digs its nest. Season 4 · 14 Jun 2018 #4.9 Angélique (by Nerval)13:22 Figure of irrationalism: the sciences concern only beings, chatter beside the ontological question of being. Talks · 20 May 2018 Marxist Café - Work and the right to work1:36:30 Nazi philosopher who indicts technology; the French school from Sartre to Derrida grew up in his shadow. Season 4 · 12 Apr 2018 #4.7 Angélique (by Nerval)1:49:44 The trial of technology, his favorite theme, is an old reactionary theme. Season 3 · 1 Aug 2017 #3.6 From Ulysses to Daedalus12:24 Being "in the Heideggerian sense." 1:02:12 Heideggerian sequence that traces the gulag back to Plato and prefers the pre-Socratics. Season 3 · 1 Aug 2017 #3.1 From Ulysses to Daedalus5:32 Has the nerve to read the dark-haired women of Andenken as a metaphor for German women. 16:03 Speaks of Greece so as to play at being the Apollo Belvedere. 1:47:40 Cited within the irrationalism of dominant thought. Season 2 · 18 Feb 2016 #2.3 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?2:39 "The most Nazi of philosophers," a profound mind who gave green lights to Nazism and no longer shook Husserl's hand. Series · 2 Feb 2016 Hegel on the Beach 5/51:03:25 "The most Nazi of philosophers." 1:20:27 Reads Andenken as a poem of the German homeland and sees German women where there are women of Bordeaux. Series · 1 Feb 2016 Hegel on the Beach 2/552:51 Has even more influence than Deleuze and Foucault in contemporary thought. 1:06:02 Is not a Nazi but "the most Nazi of philosophers"; his themes are found again in Baeumler. Series · 1 Feb 2016 Hegel on the Beach 1/541:53 His aletheia unveils by concealing; an extension of the Romantic prestige of mystery. Series · 8 Dec 2015 Dominique Pagani on Michel Clouscard - The paths of praxis 1/211:50 Clouscard often uses the word "ontic" in reference to him. 26:19 He is an accomplice of Lévi-Strauss, proposes a fascistic restoration, and, as a reactionary philosopher, is the anti-Plato. 41:58 Like Plato, but in the opposite direction, he brings about the ontological crisis of the West. Season 1 · 14 Sept 2015 #1.2 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?30:17 The postwar French school stands in his shadow; "the most Nazi of philosophers", who glorifies the Panzerdivisionen and the Führer. 1:14:52 Off the Beaten Track Ironic allusion to the Holzwege, paths that lead "always to Auschwitz".Series · 27 Sept 2014 #5 Libertarian liberalism, libidinal consumption and music...11:26 "The most Nazi of philosophers"; the whole French school from Sartre to Derrida stands in his shadow; quotations from his statements of 1933. Series · 6 Jul 2012 Radio Galère - Michel Clouscard - 132:00 "The most Nazi of philosophers," claimed by the postwar French school; Dominique Pagani quotes three of his remarks on the Führer and the Panzer Divisions. Season 14 · 28 Aug 2026 From Copernicus to Lenin: Revolution!48:37 Placed among the "gurus" who lean on the presocratics. 1:25:58 Speaking German gives the impression of doing Heidegger. Season 13 · 9 Aug 2025 The repression of the subject in bourgeois civil society29:29 His heirs swear only by fragments of Parmenides and Heraclitus. 44:08 Hannah Arendt presented as his "groupie." Season 13 · 25 Jul 2025 Naturalist ideology / Answers to questions - Dominique Pagani25:34 He specifies that he does not use German because he would be Heideggerian. Season 13 · 17 Dec 2024 The essence of evil - Innocence of nature, horror of naturalism!24:23 Nazism is not the work of barbarians but of philosophers like him. Season 13 · 2 Dec 2024 Evil, or the "unknowing" of the self6:07 Especially him, through whom Nietzsche is read. 10:11 Saying words in Greek to show off, in the manner of Heidegger. Season 13 · 2 Sept 2024 Clouscard: The metamorphoses of class struggle1:38:50 The 'little French Heideggerians' think only of being. Season 12 · 11 Jul 2024 After the vote - Entering a zone of turbulence47:53 Hölderlin must be wrested from the Heideggerian field; nothing is more opposed to Heidegger than "Sophocles the republicans." Talks · 23 Mar 2024 SAHELIAN AFRICA AND IMPERIALISM: Mali, Burkina Faso, Niger - with Dominique PAGANI13:48 "What is it?" is a Heideggerian question, opposed to the Socratic "what do you call?" Season 12 · 28 Feb 2024 Clouscard by you - Answers to your questions42:15 His Nazism is analyzed by Bourdieu. 1:51:55 His shadow marks postwar French philosophy, from Sartre to Derrida. Season 12 · 17 Oct 2023 Neither left nor right? Islamo-leftism?59:32 To speak Greek without doing Heidegger. 1:14:39 He glorifies the slaveholding Greek city. Season 11 · 3 Sept 2023 Worldliness in Clouscard: Desiring what? Through whom??1:38:56 He prefers Marx to Heidegger on the question of technology. Season 11 · 22 Jul 2023 Worldliness in Clouscard - The world as "cunning of reason"1:36:21 His posterity puts technique on trial, as if judging the knife rather than the murderer. Season 11 · 9 Jul 2023 Worldliness in Clouscard - The clash of worlds?1:28:56 The philosophers placed by the Nazi regime were his contemporaries. Season 11 · 29 Jun 2023 Worldliness in Clouscard: Aragon and the positivity of the negative36:30 In Hegel being is a result, the opposite of Heidegger's foundation of origins. 1:40:54 The deconstructionists never deconstructed the most Nazi of philosophers. Season 11 · 3 Mar 2023 War, neo-fascism: libertarian liberalism17:55 Chapoutot does not see that he is a Nazi. Series · 7 Feb 2023 Nietzsche, or the Great Ninny - Readings on the Spot0:52 The one with whom the line of hyper-Nietzscheans begins. Season 11 · 28 Sept 2022 And what about the subject in all this? Hölderlin, Mallarmé and Baudelaire1:47:46 He and his disciples indict technology. Season 10 · 23 Jun 2022 #15 Nietzsche: Philosophical or musical relevance? Answers to questions1:01:44 Cited among the readers of Nietzsche. Season 10 · 24 Mar 2022 #11 UKRAINE: Mathematics unites men, politics divides them (Aristotle)1:35:34 "Being" in the Heideggerian sense, invoked in the anti-humanism of deep ecology. Season 10 · 23 Dec 2021 10#7 "Post-modern" eco-petty-Nazism - Plato's Gorgias33:15 Continues after the war to "devour" Russians, workers, technology. 38:41 Being with a circumflex accent: an ontological representation of nature. 1:03:37 "The most Nazi of philosophers." Season 10 · 24 Nov 2021 10#5 The figure of Antigone, such as into herself at last...1:16:51 His readers annex Hölderlin and set him against Hegel. Series · 17 Nov 2021 Left-washing: Are the woke the most asleep?1:05:59 Linked to Nazi language through Faye's work. Season 10 · 3 Nov 2021 10#4 From Lascaux to modern music, the permanence of the political stakes in aesthetics33:56 Turns Hölderlin's dark-haired women into German women: a blindness. Series · 4 Oct 2021 #4 Nomad and sedentary - The case of Nerval37:42 Evoked for his ignoble attitude after the war. Season 10 · 22 Sept 2021 10#1 The eternal irony of the community55:16 His reading of Hölderlin is called a falsification. Season 9.2 · 12 May 2021 9 #21 Science and/or philosophy of "Artificial Intelligence"1:53:10 Example of the general indictment of technology, which Pagani rejects. Season 9.2 · 5 Feb 2021 9 #14 How can sciences of history be real?49:54 The term "sub-Heideggerian" is pejorative. 1:48:58 Adorno wrote against him. Series · 15 Jan 2021 Musicosophy 9. Romantic irony and the Vinteuil sonata1:36:36 He puts technique on trial, as if one condemned the knife and not the murderer. Series · 11 Jan 2021 Musicosophy 8. Happiness and unhappiness in music1:17:21 Received by René Char in Provence. Series · 17 Dec 2020 Musicosophy 7. The Greeks, myth and music48:10 Among those who created German Greece. Series · 11 Dec 2020 Musicosophy 5. Happiness versus the death drive in music53:58 Takes up the romantic glorification of the abyss, Abgrund, from his house with the geraniums. 1:04:35 Claimed that the brunette women of Andenken were German. Season 9.1 · 3 Dec 2020 #7 Answers to questions (continued)39:20 Being and Time Cited among the authors of being.44:09 The Heideggerians and their "being" with circumflex accents. Season 9.1 · 23 Oct 2020 #2 Benefits and harms of amnesia...34:15 For him the rational is the beginning of the end, the distancing from being. 1:15:10 The Heideggerians developed alêtheia as an unveiling that also conceals. Season 8 · 23 Jul 2020 #15 • Return to the logics of the subject1:12:59 Seminars on him at the Sorbonne; "duty of Eros toward the Führer." Season 8 · 17 Jul 2020 #14 • Return to the logics of the subject55:56 "The Nazi" for whom work comes from torture. Season 8 · 9 Jul 2020 #13 • Return to the logics of the subject1:11:41 Tried to monopolize Hölderlin for the worse. Season 8 · 2 Jul 2020 #12 • Return to the logics of the subject45:59 "Playing my little Heidegger" by quoting in German. Season 7 · 11 Apr 2020 #4 • Harnessed to confinitude6:59 Culmination of the destruction of reason according to Lukács. Season 6 · 29 Mar 2020 #6.6 • The Logic of the Subject in the face of the reconstitution of Nazism7:55 He refuses the term "historial" so as not to pay it tribute. Season 6 · 19 Feb 2020 #6.5 • The Logic of the Subject in the face of the reconstitution of Nazism30:34 "Card-carrying Nazi" from whom he borrows the concept of the historial. Season 6 · 30 Jan 2020 #6.4 • The Logic of the Subject in the face of the reconstitution of Nazism24:26 Designated without being named as "the most Nazi of philosophers," whose student inspires the theory of the twin evils. Season 6 · 10 Nov 2019 #6.1-1/2 - Prelude • D.Pagani / Lacan: Function and field of speech and language1:07:18 In notebooks from 1933, he reportedly makes the Panzerdivisionen a great achievement of Western metaphysics. Season 6 · 23 Oct 2019 #6.1 • The Logic of the Subject • season 6 / 2019-2011:34 Evoked ironically in connection with "eternal mentalities," blood and race. Talks · 21 Sept 2019 Pagani without detours34:34 His Greece, in rupture with the Orient, is not the one Pagani speaks of. 1:04:36 The Grund and the Abgrund, source of contemporary irrationalism. Series · 23 Aug 2019 D. Pagani / M. Clouscard's reply to C. Morilhat (1987)1:10:22 Source of the irrationalism of the philosophy of being. 1:31:31 "The most Nazi of philosophers," mentor of Hannah Arendt. Season 5.2 · 26 May 2019 #5.7 Nature or Landscape?1:32:39 One has moved from Hegel to Heidegger: a sign of regression. Series · 2 May 2019 Dominique Pagani ▷II Michel Foucault7:39 Like Foucault, he says little about music. Season 5.1 · 24 Oct 2018 #5.1 The philosopher's Odyssey: Revolutionary thought45:30 Sides with Aristotle. 1:20:19 "The most Nazi of philosophers," one of whose students coins the notion of totalitarian. Series · 5 Jul 2018 Being and Code50:16 The being who believes himself eternal, finished with the Paulette edict. Talks · 12 Jun 2018 In conversation: Dominique Pagani - Bernard Friot - 1 June 20181:55:17 Pagani rejects the Heideggerian idea that one can only philosophize in German; he then cites him as "the most Nazi of philosophers." Season 4 · 16 May 2018 #4.8 Angélique (by Nerval)1:05:49 His Greece is not that of Hölderlin. Talks · 31 Mar 2018 Tonight, we repoliticise. Part 21:36:53 "The most Nazi of philosophers," Hannah Arendt's teacher. 1:54:20 He underlined Sartre's Cartesianism. 2:07:53 Placed in the genealogy that extends to Foucault. Season 4 · 15 Mar 2018 #4.6 Angélique (by Nerval)1:51:56 He denies being a French Heideggerian. Season 2 · 1 Aug 2017 #2.8 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?24:59 Criticizes the Romans for having translated physis as natura. 1:32:33 His Hölderlin is not Pagani's. Season 3 · 1 Aug 2017 #3.5 From Ulysses to Daedalus8:38 Speaks only of the pre-Socratics, whose fragments let everything through. Season 3 · 1 Aug 2017 #3.4 From Ulysses to Daedalus40:24 Author of the "most sordid" recuperation of Hölderlin. Season 3 · 1 Aug 2017 #3.3 From Ulysses to Daedalus57:54 Continued after the war the trial of technology and the fight against "Judeo-Bolshevism." Season 2 · 1 Aug 2017 #2.6 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?7:28 Cited regarding the irrationalist use made of him during the Cold War. Talks · 2 Aug 2016 Tribute to Jacques D'Hondt (3)3:18 neo-Heideggerian currents inspire weak thought Series · 2 Aug 2016 With Clouscard6:51 Replaces Hegel in the 1970s. Talks · 19 Jun 2016 At the bistro with Pagani: part 222:21 Target of Clouscard alongside Lévi-Strauss: the restoration of being. 31:29 Origin of a fraudulent use of Nietzsche. Talks · 18 Jun 2016 At the bistro with Pagani: part 138:22 Replaces Hegel or Marx as soon as the employment rate falls. Season 2 · 10 Mar 2016 #2.4 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?1:39:17 Invoked by liberal-libertarians against technology and the washing machine. Series · 2 Feb 2016 Hegel on the Beach 3/510:45 The Heideggerian school stirs up the waters so that they seem deep. Series · 29 Jan 2016 What is to be done? 2/334:32 His anti-Platonism has unspoken political implications. Season 1 · 10 Dec 2015 #1.6 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?40:49 He refuses to do as the French Heideggerians who put a German word next to every word. 51:50 Called "the most Nazi of philosophers," Hannah Arendt's teacher. Series · 8 Dec 2015 Dominique Pagani on Michel Clouscard - The paths of praxis 2/27:32 Ontology must be wrested from his hands. Season 1 · 14 Sept 2015 #1.3 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?41:18 The little French Heideggerians and their Greek words in parentheses. Talks · 23 Jun 2015 L'île du Peuple: the debate5:44 Called "the most Nazi of philosophers," Hannah Arendt's teacher. 1:12:07 Example of great right-wing intellectuals: he spoke of a duty of Eros toward the Führer. Series · 29 Dec 2014 O for Opposition11:36 Mentioned for his use of a German word in every sentence. Series · 22 Dec 2014 H for Hegel10:49 'Hegel plus Heidegger gives Nazism,' according to the right-wing speaker cited. Series · 29 Jan 2012 Everything is allowed but nothing is possible - Michel Clouscard - 250:42 has replaced Marx as Céline replaced Aragon