Season 9.2 · 18 Feb 20219 #15 How can sciences of history be real?Cosima Wagner
Appears in 14 videos · 18 passages, 2 of them in depth.
What Dominique Pagani says
Dominique Pagani mainly discusses Cosima Wagner in the triangle she forms with Wagner and Nietzsche. He often points out that she is Liszt's daughter, taken from Hans von Bülow by Wagner, which causes a scandal in Europe1. In 2024, he adds that with her Wagner finds his balance2. On Nietzsche's side, he counts her among the two women who deeply shook him3. He cites several of her gestures: she gives Nietzsche Montaigne's Essays, and Wagner dictates My Life to her in Nietzsche's presence. He returns several times to the letters from Nietzsche's madness, signed Dionysus, in which Nietzsche declares his love to her under the name of Ariadne4. He also mentions an 1872 letter in which Nietzsche writes to her blaming the Jewish press, and the nickname "the Russian woman" that she gives Lou Salomé. On the musical side, he notes that Wagner gives her the Siegfried Idyll and that her diary records his last words in Venice5. Finally, he points out that she translated the Parsifal poem into French.
- 1NIETZSCHE - PAS DE PITIÉ POUR WAGNER • Pagani Parle Musique27 Jul 2022 · 9:30
- 2Sauver le sauveur ? La rédemption - fin du cycle ou son recommencement ?21 Apr 2024 · 54:03
- 3#4 • Les Attelé(e)s de la confinitude11 Apr 2020 · 1:12:45
- 4#3.3 D'Ulysse à Dédale1 Aug 2017 · 1:36:28
- 59 #15 Comment des sciences de l'histoire peuvent-elles être réelles?18 Feb 2021 · 29:05
Summary produced automatically from 18 of the passages below, to be reviewed; the numbers link to the moment in the session.
Season 9.2 · 18 Feb 20219 #15 How can sciences of history be real?
Series · 18 Jan 2021Musicosophy 10. The two Klemperers and Bruno Walter in Wagner- 44:58Daughter of Liszt and Marie d'Agoult, taken from Bülow; Siegfried Idyll is offered to her for her Christmas birthday.
Season 13 · 20 Sept 2024Sickness, misfortune, evil
Season 13 · 2 Sept 2024Clouscard: The metamorphoses of class struggle- 58:30Mother of Siegfried, Wagner's first son.
Season 12 · 21 Apr 2024Saving the saviour? Redemption - the end of the cycle or its new beginning?
Series · 27 Jul 2022NIETZSCHE - NO PITY FOR WAGNER • Pagani Parle Musique- 9:30Liszt's daughter, taken by Wagner from Hans von Bülow; the couple causes a scandal across Europe.
Series · 28 Jan 2021Musicosophy 12. Nietzsche (right up) against Wagner- 57:48She called Lou Salomé "the Russian."
Series · 3 Dec 2020Musicosophy 1. Schubert and the master singers- 41:32Wagner dictates My Life to him in Nietzsche's presence.
Season 7 · 5 May 2020#7 • Harnessed to confinitude- 1:00:37Recipient of a letter from Nietzsche in 1872 accusing the Jewish press.
Season 7 · 11 Apr 2020#4 • Harnessed to confinitude- 1:12:45One of the two women who overwhelmed Nietzsche; he writes her a letter in which he stammers.
Season 5.2 · 4 Feb 2019#5.4 Nature or Landscape?- 1:07:12Wife of Bülow then of Wagner.
Season 2 · 1 Aug 2017#2.5 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?- 12:00Addressee of Nietzsche's letters signed Dionysos.
Season 3 · 1 Aug 2017#3.3 From Ulysses to Daedalus
Talks · 19 Jun 2016At the bistro with Pagani: part 2- 34:11Gives Nietzsche Montaigne's Essays for Christmas.