Series · 9 Feb 2021Musicosophy 15. Plato, Rousseau, Hegel and musicOrphée
Appears in 9 videos · 10 passages, 3 of them in depth.
What Dominique Pagani says
Dominique Pagani refers to Orpheus first as a figure of music, whom he also presents as a god of metamorphosis1. He returns several times to the scene of his death: stoned by the Maenads, Orpheus keeps singing until the last stone, and the animals come to listen to his song2. In the session on interpretation, he links this image to the return from the underworld, from which Orpheus comes back having become song3. He recalls that Orpheus is the only one to have tried to bring Eurydice back from the underworld, and that he loses her because he turned around4. In a session on the logics of the subject, he presents this story as an inverted myth, in which it is the man who turns around5. He also cites the figure of the one who descends into the underworld and comes back in connection with the sonnet El Desdichado. Finally, in a session on Nietzsche and Wagner, he makes Tarzan a new Orpheus, who tames by howling.
- 1Musicosophie 15. Platon, Rouseau, Hegel et la musique9 Feb 2021 · 1:26:22
- 2Schumann2 May 2019 · 25:52
- 3Musicosophie 17. L'interprétation25 Mar 2021 · 59:12
- 4#10 Bien-et Mé-faits de l'amnésie...24 Dec 2020 · 1:10:53
- 5#11 • Retour aux logiques du sujet21 Jun 2020 · 54:18
Summary produced automatically from 10 of the passages below, to be reviewed; the numbers link to the moment in the session.
In Greek mythology, Orpheus ( ; Ancient Greek: Ὀρφεύς, classical pronunciation: [or.pʰeú̯s]) was a Thracian bard, legendary musician and prophet. He was also a renowned poet and, according to legend, travelled with Jason and the Argonauts in search of the Golden Fleece, and descended into the underworld to recover his lost wife, Eurydice. […]
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Series · 9 Feb 2021Musicosophy 15. Plato, Rousseau, Hegel and music
Season 5.2 · 2 May 2019#5.6 Nature or Landscape?- 25:52Stoned by the Maenads, he sings until the last stone; the animals come to listen to his song.
Season 10 · 23 Jun 2022#15 Nietzsche: Philosophical or musical relevance? Answers to questions- 0:00The singing god appears in the image for the session.
Series · 25 Mar 2021Musicosophy 17. Interpretation- 59:12Continues singing while the Maenads stone him; returns from the underworld turned into song.
Series · 28 Jan 2021Musicosophy 12. Nietzsche (right up) against Wagner- 43:12Tarzan is a new Orpheus who tames by howling.
Season 9.1 · 24 Dec 2020#10 Benefits and harms of amnesia...- 1:10:53He loses Eurydice for having turned around.
Season 9.1 · 23 Oct 2020#2 Benefits and harms of amnesia...- 1:05:43The only one who attempted to bring Eurydice back from the underworld.
Season 8 · 21 Jun 2020#11 • Return to the logics of the subject- 54:18Inverse myth: it is the man who turns back.
Season 4 · 18 Oct 2017#4.1 Angélique (by Nerval)- 1:42:17The one who descends into the underworld and returns, in El Desdichado.