Cycle 9.1 · 13 Nov 2020#4 Benefits and harms of amnesia…Prométhée
Appears in 30 videos · 34 passages, 22 of them in depth.
Summary
Dominique Pagani often returns to the myth of Prometheus for one central idea: man is born from a minus. Left naked by Epimetheus, without claws or natural defence, he owes his superiority to this very lack, which the fire stolen from the gods turns into strength12. He reads this fire as negativity, knowledge and the concept3, and also as intelligence, the forge and technē; he sees in it, in the literal sense as well as in the sense of the Enlightenment, the universal that allows man to go beyond his limits4. He often links the myth to the tower of Babel: in both cases, the one who seeks to make man equal to the gods is punished, and he concludes that "myths think one another"5. He also makes Prometheus the Greek equivalent of Cain, the ancestor of Daedalus and of engineers. He stresses the prophecy of the chained Titan, which announces men's revenge on Zeus6. Finally, he reads the titans as labour power facing the idle gods, and Prometheus's emancipation as that of the slave. He notes that Clouscard made him a figure of praxis.
- 1#9.21 Science and/or philosophy of “artificial intelligence”12 May 2021 · 1:43:08
- 2“I is another”, or contradictory identity12 Dec 2023 · 1:49:31
- 3Z for Zero9 Jan 2015 · 7:08
- 4#12 From Kafka to Proust, the dialectical passage from the intermezzo to the perpetuated edge7 Apr 2022 · 2:06:57
- 5Michel Foucault2 May 2019 · 58:38
- 6#4 Benefits and harms of amnesia…13 Nov 2020 · 1:12:16
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In Greek mythology, Prometheus (; Ancient Greek: Προμηθεύς) is a Titan who is responsible for creating and aiding humanity in its earliest days. He defied the Olympian gods by stealing fire from them and giving it to humanity. In several versions of the myth, Prometheus is also credited with the creation of humanity from clay. He is known for his intelligence and for being a champion of mankind and is also generally seen as the father of the human arts and sciences. He is sometimes presented as the father of Deucalion, the hero of the flood story. […]
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Cycle 9.1 · 13 Nov 2020#4 Benefits and harms of amnesia…
Cycle 2 · 18 Feb 2016#2.3 Between crisis and war: philosophising?
Cycle 12 · 12 Dec 2023“I is another”, or contradictory identity- 1:49:31By stealing fire from the gods, he allows man, deprived by nature, to convert this lack into a surplus.
Cycle 11 · 22 Jul 2023Worldliness in Clouscard: the world as “cunning of reason”- 1:41:11Steals fire from the gods by cunning for destitute man: weakness becomes strength.
Cycle 11 · 29 Jun 2023Worldliness in Clouscard: Aragon and the positivity of the negative- 1:01:15Steals fire from the gods for man who is destitute; chained in the Caucasus, a prediction announces man's revenge.
Cycle 10 · 7 Apr 2022#12 From Kafka to Proust, the dialectical passage from the intermezzo to the perpetuated edge- 2:06:57The myth shows that man's superiority comes from a lack; fire stolen from the gods, in the literal sense and in the sense of the Enlightenment.
Talks · 19 Mar 2022Hölderlin, poetry and politics- 1:22:44In this myth, man, naked and destitute, draws his superiority from his lack: fire.
Cycle 9.2 · 27 May 2021#9.22 Science and/or philosophy of “artificial intelligence” (part 2)- 1:33:47The myth expresses the minus that makes man; fire is the universal that lets him pass beyond his limits.
Cycle 9.2 · 12 May 2021#9.21 Science and/or philosophy of “artificial intelligence”- 1:43:08Steals fire, intelligence, for man left naked by Epimetheus: man's superiority comes from a minus.
Talks · 29 Sept 2019The religion of money- 47:09The titan of fire, intelligence and foundries. The titans represent labor power against the idle gods.
Series · 2 May 2019Michel Foucault- 58:38Punished for having stolen fire to make man equal to the gods, as at Babel: myths think each other.
Series · 12 Mar 2019Pablo Servigne- 1:38:48He steals fire to fill man's lack: the myth expresses a superiority that comes from a minus.
Cycle 5.1 · 31 Dec 2018#5.3 The philosopher's Odyssey: revolutionary thought
Cycle 5.1 · 2 Nov 2018#5.1 bis Questions (Facebook Live)- 20:30Steals fire to bring it to men; his myth says roughly the same thing as the Tower of Babel.
Cycle 5.1 · 24 Oct 2018#5.1 The philosopher's Odyssey: revolutionary thought- 1:49:30Friend of man and of progress, gives fire; foretells man's revenge over the gods.
Cycle 4 · 12 Apr 2018#4.7 Angélique (by Nerval)
Cycle 4 · 18 Oct 2017#4.1 Angélique (by Nerval)- 1:49:12The Greek equivalent of Cain: the engineer who brings fire and technē.
Cycle 3 · 1 Aug 2017#3.4 From Ulysses to Daedalus- 1:44:29Punished for having given fire, intelligence and the forge, he announces that man will avenge him against the gods.
Cycle 1 · 11 Dec 2015#1.7 Between crisis and war: philosophising?- 41:05The myth shows that man is born of a lack, without natural defenses, and is viable only through relation to the other.
Series · 9 Jan 2015Z for Zero- 7:08The myth recognizes that man is by nature nothing; Prometheus gives him fire, that is, negativity, knowledge, the concept.
Series · 5 Mar 2022Panzer-philosophy against the cogito: neo-fascism or the ideology of nature (Heidegger, Descartes)- 5:01The myth shows man destitute at the outset, rising to civilization.
Cycle 9.2 · 14 Jan 2021#9.12 How can sciences of history be real?- 1:27:38A figure of praxis proposed by Clouscard.
Series · 17 Dec 2020#7 The Greeks, myth and music- 34:29His myth expresses that human greatness comes from a lack.
Cycle 9.1 · 3 Dec 2020#7 Answers to questions (continued)- 57:30The myth shows man deprived compared to other species.
Cycle 8 · 2 Jul 2020#12 Return to the logics of the subject- 1:37:31He goes to fetch fire from the gods: fire is also that of intelligence.
Cycle 6 · 29 Mar 2020#6.6 The logic of the subject in the face of the reconstitution of Nazism- 1:33:08Man, being deprived, needs the fire of the gods.
Cycle 3 · 1 Aug 2017#3.5 From Ulysses to Daedalus- 1:29:09The myth compared to Babel: impiety of wanting to equal what is above.
Cycle 2 · 10 Mar 2016#2.4 Between crisis and war: philosophising?- 24:31Like the tower of Babel, he wants to equal the gods.
Cycle 2 · 15 Feb 2016#2.2 Between crisis and war: philosophising?- 55:50Steals fire for men and is punished: Jupiter fears that man will equal him.
Series · 29 Jan 2016What is to be done? 3/3- 16:07The clawless man of the myth, weak in nature.