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Relations of production

rapports de production

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Dominique Pagani approaches relations of production through Marx, distinguishing them from productive forces. He defines them as property relations: the same plough yields different societies depending on whether it belongs to the lord or to a cooperative1. Productive forces belong to economics, while relations of production add a political dimension to them. He also describes them as the form of which productive forces are the matter, and it is this form that defines the political system2. He draws a rule from this: it is not techniques that should be called into question, but the relations of production, that is, the question of whom they serve3. At first an expression of the productive forces, these relations eventually become fetters on them, and this contradiction opens an epoch of social revolution4. Superstructures and mentalities, for their part, change more slowly. As an example, he takes slavery: it explains the absence of Greek physics, because a relation between people blocks the relation to things5.

  1. 1Dominique Pagani "Sur Marx"6 Oct 2018 · 50:26
  2. 2#5.3 bis FaceBookLive / Questions13 Jan 2019 · 1:03:39
  3. 3#4.7 Angélique (de Nerval)12 Apr 2018 · 1:50:24
  4. 4Dominique Pagani "Sur Marx"6 Oct 2018 · 57:29
  5. 59 #16 Comment des sciences de l'histoire peuvent-elles être réelles?4 Mar 2021 · 1:41:13

Summary produced automatically from 9 of the passages below, to be reviewed; the numbers link to the moment in the session.

Season 5.1 · 13 Jan 2019#5.3 bis FaceBookLive / Questions
  1. 58:15Productive forces are an economic notion; relations of production add a political dimension, relations of ownership. The same productive forces do not produce the same world.
  2. 1:03:39Productive forces are a matter, relations of production a form: it is the latter that define the political system.
Talks · 6 Oct 2018Dominique Pagani "On Marx"
  1. 50:26These are relations of property: the same plough gives different societies depending on whether it belongs to the lord or to a cooperative.
  2. 57:29From being an expression of the productive forces, they become fetters on them; then an era of social revolution opens.
Series · 1 Feb 2016Marx on the Beach 1/2
  1. 51:02They are a function of the degree of development of productive forces and add the question of their ownership: same tool, different societies depending on whether ownership is collective or private.
  2. 1:21:03At a certain stage, the old relations of production hinder the new productive forces: this is a revolutionary situation.

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