Season 12 · 2 May 2024Neo-fascism and the ideology of desire - Clouscard, as relevant as ever (cf. Macron's ultra-warmongering remarks)Productive forces
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What Dominique Pagani says
Dominique Pagani takes productive forces to mean everything that makes production possible, "from the chipped pebble to the particle accelerator," and first of all the human body and intelligence12. He takes up Marx's formula that the hand-mill gives feudalism and the steam-mill the bourgeoisie. In his view, the development of these forces marks out the great periods of anthropology, down to the divisions of prehistory3. For Marx, he says, this development is also what matters most4. These forces come into contradiction with the relations of production, that is, of property: the same hoe gives different worlds depending on whether it is put to private or collective use5. They evolve faster than mentalities and act on cultural structures; his example is television, which makes the Corsican language disappear6. From this he draws a criterion for judging the standard of living and excess consumption: they are measured against what the productive forces of the time allow, not against the past. He adds that, in his view, productivity has multiplied since 1936 without a comparable fall in working time.
- 1Marx Plage 1/21 Feb 2016 · 51:49
- 2Dominique Pagani "Sur Marx"6 Oct 2018 · 50:05
- 3H comme Hegel22 Dec 2014 · 9:33
- 4K comme Karl25 Dec 2014 · 9:28
- 5Hegel Plage 5/52 Feb 2016 · 25:33
- 6Néo-fascisme et idéologie du désir - Clouscard d'actualité (cf propos Ultra bellicistes de Macron)2 May 2024 · 1:09:59
Summary produced automatically from 14 of the passages below, to be reviewed; the numbers link to the moment in the session.
Season 12 · 2 May 2024Neo-fascism and the ideology of desire - Clouscard, as relevant as ever (cf. Macron's ultra-warmongering remarks)
Season 8 · 11 Jun 2020#10 • Return to the logics of the subject
Talks · 6 Oct 2018Dominique Pagani "On Marx"- 50:05Everything that allows production, from the chipped pebble to the particle accelerator; the hand mill gives feudalism, the steam mill gives the bourgeoisie.
Series · 2 Feb 2016Hegel on the Beach 5/5- 25:33The material productive forces enter into contradiction with the relations of production, that is, of property; the same hoe gives different worlds depending on its private or collective use.
Series · 1 Feb 2016Marx on the Beach 1/2
Series · 1 Feb 2016Marx on the Beach 2/2
Series · 25 Dec 2014K for Karl- 9:28For Marx what matters is the development of the productive forces: given equal justice, a powerful production is preferable to an inferior one.
Series · 22 Dec 2014H for Hegel- 9:33The divisions of prehistory (chipped stone, polished stone, bronze, iron) follow the development of the productive forces, which marks out the great periods of anthropology.
Series · 17 Dec 2014C for Consumption- 7:37Excess consumption is measured against what the productive forces of the time allow, not against the past.
Series · 27 Sept 2014#5 Libertarian liberalism, libidinal consumption and music...- 5:45Standard of living should be judged against the possibilities of today's productive forces, not against a past stage.