Season 9.2 · 3 Apr 20219 #18 Twilight of the Gods, or from repetition to liberationVerdi
Appears in 16 videos · 20 passages, 7 of them in depth.
What Dominique Pagani says
Dominique Pagani almost always discusses Verdi alongside Wagner: born the same year, 1813, he is tied to Italian unification as Wagner is to German unification, and his name forms the initials of Victor Emmanuel, King of Italy12. He claims that the two composers watch each other while pretending to ignore each other: the prelude to La Traviata comes before that of Lohengrin, and the love duet in Otello equals the one in Tristan3. He often comes back to Falstaff, the work of an old man that ends in a burst of laughter after tragic works. He sees it as Verdi's Meistersinger, the work where he goes furthest musically45. On Il Trovatore, he judges the librettos dreadful but the tragedy wholesome and popular, carried by a frenzy for living: pleasure and gaiety, without happiness6. He also notes that Verdi is popular in Italy, while in France he remains reserved for those who can pay. He further remarks that his characters burst onto the stage like a pistol shot.
- 1Freud1 Aug 2017 · 43:30
- 2La quête du Graal, bondieuserie ou sacrilège ?1 Apr 2024 · 1:13:08
- 39 #18 Le Crépuscule des dieux ou de la répétition à la libération3 Apr 2021 · 1:54:00
- 49 #18 Le Crépuscule des dieux ou de la répétition à la libération3 Apr 2021 · 25:57
- 510#1 L’éternelle ironie de la communauté22 Sept 2021 · 12:47
- 6Musicosophie 8. Bonheur et malheur en musique11 Jan 2021 · 1:32:39
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Giuseppe Fortunino Francesco Verdi ( VAIR-dee; Italian:; 9 or 10 October 1813 – 27 January 1901) was an Italian composer best known for his operas. He was born near Busseto, a small town in the modern province of Parma, to a family of moderate means, receiving a musical education with the help of a local patron named Antonio Barezzi. […]
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Season 9.2 · 3 Apr 20219 #18 Twilight of the Gods, or from repetition to liberation
Series · 11 Jan 2021Musicosophy 8. Happiness and unhappiness in music- 29:29Linked to Italian unity, as Wagner is to German unity.
- 33:38FalstaffThe prelude to La Traviata preceded that of Lohengrin; Falstaff, an old man's work, ends in laughter.
- 1:32:39Il TrovatoreAppalling librettos but a salutary, popular tragic, a frenzy for living; pleasure and gaiety without happiness.
Season 12 · 1 Apr 2024The quest for the Grail, sanctimony or sacrilege?- 1:13:08The Italian equivalent of Wagner and his exact contemporary, linked to Italian unity; in him, characters burst forth like a pistol shot.
Season 10 · 22 Sept 202110#1 The eternal irony of the community
Season 3 · 1 Aug 2017#3.1 From Ulysses to Daedalus- 43:30Born the same year as Wagner, embodies Italian unity; his name forms the initials of Victor Emmanuel, king of Italy.
Season 12 · 4 Jun 2024The matrix of all illusion: the past lived as present- 30:48Mentioned among the Italians performed in Paris.
Series · 4 Oct 2021#4 Nomad and sedentary - The case of Nerval- 23:53Born in 1813, like Wagner.
Season 9.2 · 18 Feb 20219 #15 How can sciences of history be real?- 1:29:45Don CarlosHe succeeds in Paris with Don Carlos; La Traviata adapts La Dame aux camélias.
Series · 7 Feb 2021Musicosophy 14. Mozart once more- 3:08The Force of DestinyAnnounced by the Commendatore scene.
Series · 24 Jan 2021Musicosophy 11. Modal and tonal music- 8:23Model of opera that Broadway composers dreamed of equaling.
Series · 18 Jan 2021Musicosophy 10. The two Klemperers and Bruno Walter in Wagner- 7:33Contemporary of Wagner, linked to Italian unity.
Series · 17 Dec 2020Musicosophy 7. The Greeks, myth and music- 36:03FalstaffAn entertainment for connoisseurs comparable to Capriccio.
Season 7 · 4 Apr 2020#3 • Harnessed to confinitude- 11:42Popular in Italy, reserved in France for those who can pay.
Season 3 · 1 Aug 2017#3.2 From Ulysses to Daedalus- 54:24Opera shows violence even more.
Season 2 · 1 Aug 2017#2.6 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?- 19:02RigolettoThe note written by Verdi, which Caruso prolongs.
Talks · 18 Jun 2016At the bistro with Pagani: part 1- 50:55In him the aria is clearly identified.