Guilt

What Dominique Pagani says

Dominique Pagani discusses guilt mainly in connection with Wagner's Parsifal. He calls it the obsessive theme of the work and compares it to Macbeth's bloodstain1. He distinguishes two ways of making the hero feel guilty. The first is Gurnemanz's: in his view, Gurnemanz's interrogation is an almost sadistic work of instilling guilt2. The second is Kundry's, which proceeds quite differently, drawing on love for the mother Parsifal abandoned3. In 2024, he specifies that Kundry, like Gurnemanz with the swan, deepens in Parsifal the guilt of having been his mother's murderer in order to break down his defences4. Guilt thus serves here to disarm the subject. In an earlier session, he recalls that the Apocalypse makes evil the one who accuses, whereas Christianity has nonetheless been turned into a religion of guilt. He adds that environmentalism also induces guilt5.

1. 1L’hésitation fascinée par l’ouÏe et par la vue : Siegfried et Perceval12 Dec 2022 · 1:01:13
2. 2L’hésitation fascinée par l’ouÏe et par la vue : Siegfried et Perceval12 Dec 2022 · 51:59
3. 3L’hésitation fascinée par l’ouÏe et par la vue : Siegfried et Perceval12 Dec 2022 · 1:21:12
4. 4La matrice de toute illusion : le passé vécu comme présent4 Jun 2024 · 1:55:34
5. 5#3.3 D'Ulysse à Dédale1 Aug 2017 · 1:43:02

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