Primal scene

scène primitive

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Summary

Dominique Pagani uses the notion of the primal scene in two registers. In 2020, in a Musicosophie session on the Greeks, myth and music, he shifts its meaning: the primal scene is not parental copulation but the heroic, collective, political and historical act1. He adds that Marx makes us prowl around the primal scene of our collective history2. In the sessions on Parsifal (2022 and 2024), he returns to a meaning closer to psychoanalysis: a scene, fantasised or real, that lies at the origin of trauma. Kundry takes Parsifal back to his conception and to maternal love3. She traces the primal scene in every direction, back to the eternity spent between the newborn and his mother4. In 2024, he distinguishes two primal scenes: the child on his bed of moss, then the vision of parental coitus, Gamuret ablaze before Herzeleide5.

Summary produced automatically from 5 of the passages below, to be reviewed; the numbers link to the moment in the session.

Cycle 12 · 4 Jun 2024The matrix of all illusion: the past lived as present

1:52:55Kundry traces the primal scene in every sense: the eternity past between the newborn and its mother.
2:06:07Two primal scenes: the child on his bed of moss, then the vision of the parents' coitus, Gamuret set aflame before Herzeleide.

Cycle 11 · 12 Dec 2022Hesitation fascinated by hearing and by sight: Siegfried and Perceval

1:20:19The primal scene is a scene, fantasized or real, at the origin of the trauma; Kundry brings Parsifal back to his conception and to maternal love.

Series · 17 Dec 2020#7 The Greeks, myth and music

25:06The primal scene is not parental copulation but the heroic, collective, political, and historical act.
57:06Marx circles around the primal scene of our collective history.