Season 14 · 13 Apr 2026Language and thought: The case of LavoisierNatural language
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What Dominique Pagani says
Dominique Pagani finds the expression "natural language" paradoxical and treats it as a linguists' antiphrasis: nothing is less natural than language. It is acquired, based on double articulation and distinct from animal communication. He therefore prefers to speak of ordinary language, or of "ordinary ideological language"12. It is everyday language, equivocal and full of metaphors. Saying "the day is breaking" is making poetry without knowing it, not astronomy3. This language does not serve first of all to know: it serves to act, to seduce, to threaten or to judge, and it expresses a logic of the subject, not that of objects4. He sets it against mathematics: the mathematician abandons it for univocal signs and algorithms, the poet transforms it, the philosopher cannot leave it5. The subjective, which is philosophy's object, is indeed found in this language. Philosophy must therefore seek within it a rigour comparable to that of mathematics6.
- 1D. Pagani / Réponse de M. Clouscard à C. Morilhat • Seconde Partie10 Sept 2019 · 1:16:56
- 2Clouscard et le problème de Socrate14 Oct 2022 · 2:52
- 3Musicosophie 7. Les Grecs, le mythe et la musique17 Dec 2020 · 29:24
- 4#14 Cavernes d'Hier et d'Aujourd'hui - De Platon à la modernité10 Jun 2022 · 37:19
- 59 #20 Du SIGNAL au SIGNE • Einstein28 Apr 2021 · 58:07
- 6#15 Nietzsche : Pertinence philosophique ou musicale ? Réponses aux questions23 Jun 2022 · 7:25
Summary produced automatically from 28 of the passages below, to be reviewed; the numbers link to the moment in the session.
Season 14 · 13 Apr 2026Language and thought: The case of Lavoisier
Season 11 · 13 Nov 2022Dialectics of hesitation and decision- 14:10Natural language remains words, logos, not mathemes or algorithms.
- 16:30"The day is breaking" is a matter of metaphor, not astronomy: ordinary language suffices for acting but not for knowing.
- 59:26Better to say usual language: nothing is less natural than language, which theologians have equated with God.
Season 11 · 14 Oct 2022Clouscard and the problem of Socrates
Season 11 · 28 Sept 2022And what about the subject in all this? Hölderlin, Mallarmé and Baudelaire
Season 10 · 23 Jun 2022#15 Nietzsche: Philosophical or musical relevance? Answers to questions- 7:25The mathematician abandons natural language for algorithms; the philosopher cannot leave it, because the subjective, the object of philosophy, is found in this everyday language.
Season 10 · 10 Jun 2022#14 Caves of Yesterday and Today - From Plato to modernity
Season 9.2 · 28 Apr 20219 #20 From SIGNAL to SIGN • Einstein- 58:07The mathematician lets fall the words of language, the poet transforms them as if speaking another code, the philosopher would like to give them mathematical rigor.
Series · 17 Dec 2020Musicosophy 7. The Greeks, myth and music
Season 9.1 · 13 Nov 2020#4 Benefits and harms of amnesia...- 10:10The logic of natural language settles what physics does not: a hydrogen atom is no longer water. We are sovereign in matters of naming.
Season 7 · 30 Mar 2020#2 - Harnessed to Confinitude
Season 6 · 23 Oct 2019#6.1 • The Logic of the Subject • season 6 / 2019-20
Series · 10 Sept 2019D. Pagani / M. Clouscard's reply to C. Morilhat • Part Two- 1:16:56Better called ordinary ideological language, since it has nothing natural about it; philosophy never leaves it, but must draw from it the necessity of the concept.
Series · 23 Aug 2019D. Pagani / M. Clouscard's reply to C. Morilhat (1987)- 37:31An accumulation of unconscious poetics: saying "the day rises" is making poetry without knowing it.
Season 5.2 · 4 Feb 2019#5.4 Nature or Landscape?
Season 5.2 · 25 Jan 2019#5.4 Introduction / Nature or Landscape?- 53:51It is paradoxical to call "natural" the language that is least so: naming is a quasi-supernatural decree, distinct from animal communication.
Season 4 · 14 Jun 2018#4.9 Angélique (by Nerval)
Series · 3 Jan 2015T for Triangle- 3:00Everyday language has a metaphorical richness and carries purposes, which the defined terms of geometry abandon.