Surface

What Dominique Pagani says

Dominique Pagani defines the surface as an "almost non-being": it is the boundary between two heterogeneous realities, and yet it is no less deep than what lies beneath1. His recurring example, from 2018 to 2022, is the liquid gold of the sunset on the sea. It is neither in the sky nor in the water but in their meeting, and it vanishes as soon as one takes a glass of water23. In his view, contemplation always has a surface as its object. Skin illustrates the same point: removing one millimetre of it is enough to stop loving, and it is the page where inwardness comes to the surface45. He distinguishes the sciences, such as physics and geology, which go beyond the surface, from geography, which draws upon it. He links this concept to Nerval, who projects his fantasy world onto a surface as onto a screen, and to Nietzsche, for whom depth lies in the surface, in a dialectic that runs from Hegel to Freud6. In art, the beautiful object is the mirror in which desire is reflected, and the surface is deeper than what lies beneath because our desires are projected onto it7.

1. 1Hegel Plage 5/52 Feb 2016 · 44:15
2. 2Schumann2 May 2019 · 1:23:28
3. 3#9 TABLEAUX D'UNE EXPOSITION : L'art, vu d'ici ou d'en face?10 Feb 2022 · 1:27:29
4. 4#4.4 Angélique (de Nerval)15 Jan 2018 · 15:30
5. 5#9 TABLEAUX D'UNE EXPOSITION : L'art, vu d'ici ou d'en face?10 Feb 2022 · 1:33:48
6. 6Musicosophie 12. Nietzsche (tout) contre Wagner28 Jan 2021 · 33:38
7. 7Dominique Pagani - Qui se cache sous les surfaces ? Esthétique et politique20 May 2022 · 1:06:30

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